Category: Jam Session
Is it just me or are there not enough real drummers out there today! Just wondering, because I'm noticing a sharp decline of them out there. I guess people are just too lazy and rather take a poor shortcut by using drumb machines, but no matter what, the five peace kitts will never disappear, because it aint no fun just to punch a few buttons on a computer to program a drumb machine at all, it aint authentic at all.
I'm all about a real kit. Five pieces, and a lot of cymbals! Unfortunately though, I'm a keyboard player, so when I'm in the studio, I do better sequencing drums than playing them, but if I had a good drummer, I'd use him!
There's nothing like the real thing. I can usually always tell synth drums from real ones, although the are getting good at digitally recording real drum sounds to make it sound more, umm, as you put it, authentic. But, yeah! I used to play drums in my high school group we called "Combo", and I loved it. So, I know how disappointing it is, to hear fake drum sounds in music, but I guess they have there place. However, I think drums should sound as close to the real thing as possible.
There's nothing like the real thing. I can usually always tell synth drums from real ones, although the are getting good at digitally recording real drum sounds to make it sound more, umm, as you put it, authentic. But, yeah! I used to play drums in my high school group we called "Combo", and I loved it. So, I know how disappointing it is, to hear fake drum sounds in music, but I guess they have there place. However, I think drums should sound as close to the real thing as possible.
Sorry. Don't you just love it when that happens? I know I do. Now you get to read three posts from Charisma. Wish I could just erase that one! Lol.
Oh well! Have fun!
I miss the days of the 70's prog rockers who had these massive drum kits. Neil Peart from Rush had double-bass drums, all kinds of cymbals, little chimes, big tubular bells, he had like everything! He got carpal-tunnel syndrome though so I think he's toned it down quite a bit. It's a wonder death metal drummers don't get carpal-tunnel with all that they have to do! Overall, there seems to be a lack in real music with pop taking over hard rock and trying to fuse it together. I nearly threw up when I was flipping the stations and heard this whiny little alternative song and some of the lyrics were like "maiden and priest were how we were raised" and I went "you're bullshitting me!" I figured I'm a straight-up vocalist and nothing can get more real than the human voice! Kate
I've been going through the bonus dvd that came with the latest cannibal corpse called the wretched spaun, and it did have som footage of Paul their drumber, and he did use special sticks with fome grips on them to deaden the pain, but even on the footage he's like "that fuckin' hurts!"
I guess it takes years of practice to even play as fast as these death metal drumbers do, because look at Napalm Death, now that's dam scarry especially on the track mass apeal madness, that part where they do that fast bit. I mean the guy has to be soar after a show, get out the painpills!
I've always wanted to be a drummer and I thought maybe I could be a drummer and vocalist like Phil Collins, but it's a lot of hard work and I have no room for a drum set or time for practice. I'll stick to being a vocalist and using an instrument I'm already equipped with. I wonder how sick that would be seeing a drummer play with his third stick!
I feel sorry for anyone who's a drumber on tour, I mean they've gotta be racked with pain at the end of a show.
Well, i think that all the real drummers are in the real metal bands, like Iced Earth and stuff, but Staind has a great drummer, so does Tool. But you're all right about this whole drum machine crap not being authentic, thats just out of pure laziness. A great example of this is Simple Plan, not only do they suck in general but on their first album cover, they didnt even include their drummer, haha, cuz he just used a drum machine...But hey, I shouldn't be complaining, since the majority of the bands i like do have real drummers.
Yeah, it's a bit sad, I mean the same guy does drumming for a Perfect Circle, Evanessence and 3 or 4 other bands out there (can't remember his name right now but you can see it on the linar notes of the CDs, he's not even that good, he's just ok and you would expect bands to be able to find good drummers without having to hire that particular guy). The Tool drummer is absolutely wicked, one of my favorites. The death metal bands have some great drummers (I was never a fand of Lars Ulrich, well, of course they're not death metal but the thought just popped into my head, he's fast but his accuracy is horrible), Jimmy Chamberlaine is amazing and the guy from Blink 182 is unbelievable, .. check out "Always" from their last album, the drum histrionics on that song are unbelievable, also the Box Car Racer side project they had, same guy and his drumming was really amazing. the Cure has a really good and very subtle drummer who fuses his drums with digital effects and all sorts of shaking instrument etc to create a very special and different drum sound. I've been a drummer in bands for almost 8 years and I do the drums for my band on our recordings. I actually use a digital drumpad called Handsonic from Roland but only because it provides all these tribal drums and bongos and weird Chinese and AFrican drums and I would never get those sounds otherwise. But I use a modified Sonar 3003 Fusion set for all my takes and a metronom (and it's very annoying) and I also have a Tama Artstar set, same as the Anthrax drummer. :) I have the double pedal and it's fun to play although our music hardly ever requires it. After just a few hours of takes I have blisters all over my fingers, it's really bloody awful so if you guys want to go into it, expect some bleeding and some pain. :)
Oh, dAve Grohl is a very good drummer, especially back on the Nirvana tracks but also on the Queens of the Stonage albums (at least on the last one). :)
I'll post more when I can think of them, but generally I agree, I'm missing drummers. :)
cheers
-B
Even Marilyn Manson with their seriously talented Drummer Ginger Fish use machines to add extra effect or musical trickery to the sound its ok for a while but I was left thinking "is this really necessary with a man of his ability behind the kit?" But the purest drumming Iv'e heard lately is from HIM their drummer Gas Lipstick is quite incredible very accurate and I could happily listen to just him for hours.
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R.R your right there is a dearth of good pure drumming out there but the more commercial unnatural sound of machines will always sell to those who lack the knowledge or the patience to enjoy a great artist at the top of his form